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The conflict in Gaza has caused yet more distress and suffering

Stephen Crabb MP, Wednesday, January 7 2009

Stephen Crabb

There is nothing about the current military conflict in Gaza which is not tragic and disturbing. The immediate consequences for the people of Gaza of the fighting between Hamas and Israel are yet more distress and suffering, compounding the humanitarian disaster in which they have been living for years.

But this is not a conflict made in Israel.  We may criticise Israel for settlements on the West Bank; for the ugly and imposing security barrier which it has constructed; for the roadblocks and checkpoints which cause so much disruption to the economy and daily lives of Palestinians on the West Bank.  But the blame for the current misery of Gaza lies squarely with its own leaders.

Just as NATO would not allow Afghanistan, under the Taliban, to provide a platform for international terrorists like Al Quadea, so Israel cannot be expected to allow Hamas to construct a terrorist statelet in Gaza and use it as a base for continous attacks on its people.  No government which takes seriously its responsibility to protect its citizens would do otherwise.

As many people suspected all along, the six month ceasefire between Israel and Hamas (which Hamas broke on 19th December) was merely another opportunity for rearmament and restrengthening. It was also a period for Hamas to extend its propaganda war, especially in European capital cities. 

Their claim to western media that they are seeking peaceful co-existence alongside Israel and that the daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians are merely in response to military action by Israel is a preposterous lie.  Rejection and destruction of Israel is a core element of the Hamas ideology. In its twenty years of existence it has established a menacing track record in carrying out terrorist atrocities. It also provides cover for groups like Islamic Jihad to carry out their own attacks, especially at times when Hamas agrees to a ceasefire, and refuses to follow the peace track being pursued by the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

Alongside the generals of Burma and the gangster regime of Robert Mugabe, the Hamas administration in Gaza must surely rank as one of the most odious political authorities anywhere in the world.  At a time when the international community is working harder than ever to eradicate the use of child soldiers, Hamas continues to 'educate' Palestinian children in hate and martyrdom theology.  It has launched murderous attacks on humanitarian convoys bringing aid into Gaza from Israel and deliberately shields its weaponry behind innocent civilians. The peace, welfare and fundamental human rights of Palestinians are not safe under Hamas.

But in recent months and years they have made progress in their campaign to win over the sympathies of European politicians and officials. They have refined their message and polished their performance in front of European audiences and have found some willing listeners.  As a consequence there are increasing calls for negotiation with Hamas, even though Hamas continues to reject the Quartet Principles which underpin the Middle East peace process. I have heard several Arab diplomats speak privately in scathing terms about Hamas and wondered what it is about Hamas that some sections of the media and Westminster village are just not seeing.

William Hague is absolutely right to emphasise that a decisive Israeli military victory, if it comes, will not amount to a final settlement of the Gaza or wider Palestinian questions.  The military offensive must be supported by a credible political strategy.  Based on their track-record and current stance, it is difficult to see how Hamas can ever be a party to such a desperately-needed settlement.

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Comment by Tom Welsh on Jan 7 2009, 17:29

What I still don't understand is why the state of Israel exists at all. Millions of people from other continents descended on this small corner of Asia, armed with state of the art weaponry, threw the local people out of all the best land, and took it for themselves. Yet we are somehow supposed to overlook that piece of grand larceny, and start from the assumption that Israel is as legitimate as any other nation. Not being a racist, I don't have any opinions about Jews or Palestinians or Arabs as such. I just don't understand why Israel is there at all in the first place. And I do understand why the Palestinians want their land back.

Comment by Jim on Jan 10 2009, 12:01

I think you've reiterated the standard Israeli position fairly well, without addressing the other side. Without addressing Palestinian issues, no progress will be made. Whatever we may think of them, Hamas represents the frustrations of Gazans with the blockades, the overbearing military control by Israel, the collective punishment for each provocation, and the refusal of Israel to address the grievances of the refugees for over sixty years.

I don't want to defend Hamas, but I have seen moderate Hamas leaders willing to negotiate with Israel. Instead Israel undermines these people. I no longer believe that Israel wants peace. A continuous state of war suits Israel better from its position of power.

Comment by No Display Name on Jan 11 2009, 11:11

Stephen Crabb doesn't 'examine' the conflict with Hamas, sadly he recites the Israeli line. This is propogated broadly, and I'm saddened that the Consevative Party can offer no more balanced elucidation of the subject.

It's rich of Mr Crabb to comment upon Hamas' wooing of the media, when Israel has a sophisticated information operation running globally 24 hrs a day. The spokesmen of this media bandwagon are MPs, Congressmen, even former Prime Ministers.

Since Israel forbids international journalists fom gazing upon its works in Gaza, it's as well somebody does present the other side of the story.

To solve the problems of the Middle East, we need fresh thinking. Yes, we do need to take Hamas to task in an uncompromising manner, but we also need to deal objectively with Israel.

The bible is not an article of international law, and for the purposes of our existence in the real world, Israelis are not the chosen people, above all censure or jurisdiction. We have to apply the same standards to Israel as we apply to any other nation.

In real politik terms, unquestioning adherance to the policies of the Israeli Govenment does not serve this Government's - or the US administration's - aims in the Middle East. Whilst some real progress is being made in Iraq, thanks to the sacrifices of US and British soldiers, it's very sad to read reports that Israel's actions are readily married with American foreign policy - good work is immediately undone; hearts and minds are lost again.

The West will never be perceived as an honest broker in the Middle East until it ceases to condone Israel's discretions. Polarised views on either side will perpetuate the problem. Intenational law applies to all, we must be even-handed in its application.

Comment by paulob1 on Jan 11 2009, 13:05

Hamas have instigated military action...I can understand their frustraions but to keep harking on about israels right to be there is totally pointless. There may well be some situations where land could be better utilised and given to the palestinians as one parcel of land rather than two but using histroy as a measure is totally pointless. Jews were the legitimate land owners in the time of Christ...they were the ones evicted...but as I say what is the point...we have the current situation and whilst not perfect it could easily be solved if the palestinians, a natioin that has never been...were to be offered a place to live that was not so dominated by Israel...Gaza and the west bank will always be areas of conflict and whilst we may try to stop it , it wont cease until people can learn to live with peace....and negotiate rights...rather than take up arms and fight for those rights...I feel that whilst israel can be very dogmatic in their attitude to non jews lives they are so people orientated in real life....what we need to do is somehow help both sides see that each has a right to be...and that is it...once they accept each other life can go on and where we live almost becomes accademic...palestinians have never been a nation, they are young, new to it. it will take them time to learn how to live in peace...man can be very very aggressive and abusive of human rights. He needs help to stop this..Hamas need help but they have to prove they can and will accept Israel as a state and a people, and stop using violence against them every time they can..because they can...there is no point to them sending missilies into israel..it does nothing but annoy and make them out to be fools and untrustworthy people...what do they expect to achieve. Violence seems to be the word of choice these days for many arabs.(and yes others too).we have to change that word to discussion and negotiation. Otherwise they will mobilise a western nation that has a history of war mongering on a scale that Hamas and Hezbollah can only dream about and whilst there may be a need for reducing the population of the world by a couple of billion the devastation would be immense...no more wars...this has got to be the way forward....look at the iIRA they learned and now they have become world respected leaders..to a degree anyway....it can be done amongst all the hatred a path of non violence can be negotiated, we just have to leave it to someone other than Hamas and Israel...or Hezbollah...to bring them all together....it will be hard for all parties but it has to be done...

Comment by alpha77 on Jan 11 2009, 14:31

I agree with Jim's comment. I have seen no desire for peace from Israel (at least not if that means Israel giving up their illegal settlements and returning to the Palestinians what is rightfully theirs).

Whether one likes Hamas or not, it's been democratically elected by the Palestinians, and Israel's actions over the last decades have led to the outcome of this election. Israel has never deemed any Palestinian government or leader as acceptable, no matter how reasonable or moderate.

Yasser Arafat was widely respected by all Palestinians, moderates and radicals (and most of the world), and had the power and respect to carry through any agreement achieved with Israel, yet Israel would not accept him as a negotiation partner in the later years.

Abbas has neither the power nor respect of most Palestinians of course, but has still been continuously undermined by Israel. Who can wonder that after decades of injustice and frustrations the people of Palestine have elected the radical Hamas as their representative?

Comment by No Display Name on Jan 11 2009, 17:07

What a breath of fresh air - its about time we were all more vocal in our condemnation of Hamas and how they cynically use their own people. Sadly most of us are far too apathetic to organise ourselves to stand up for Israel. Hamas and its supporters are everywhere and they are ready, willing and able to demonstrate (not always peaceably) publicly their opposition to the State of Israel. My one fear is that somehow we all sleep walk into believing that Israel should not be there - please do not believe for one moment that this would be the start of peace. The long term plan as I see it, spreads much wider than that!

Comment by Richard Manns on Jan 11 2009, 17:26

Tom Welsh

Q: Why does Israel exist?
A: It actually doesn't matter. To try to force them from their lands is classed as a genocidal act, and quite rightly so. By normal standards, the vast majority of Palestinians are not refugees as they were never born in the disputed lands. Unfortunately, the UN declared them to be a "special case" where refugee status is heritable. I note that the 100,000s of Jews driven from their homes in Arab countries are not classed as refugees, nor are their descendants, else most Sephardi Jews in Israel would be refugees from Arab states' oppression. I hope that the Palestinians' descendants will be recompensed for their losses, but until the Arab states recognise their reciprocal crimes on Jews, it won't ever happen.

Jim

It is irrelevant whether some leaders in Hamas have chosen to "talk" to Israel. Their long-term aims, namely the occupation of all the lands of Israel, imposition of a theocratic state and explusion of the current population, were genocidal and they remain as such. Israel does, indeed, talk to "moderate" Palestinians, i.e. those that are interested in a 2-state solution; they're in the West Bank, they're secular and they're called Fatah. Long may Palestinians be able to build a happy and free home in the West Bank.

No Display Name

Indeed, the Israelis have become more media-savvy. In other conflicts, they let the international media get spoon-fed exaggerations, one-sided truths and outright lies by the militants. I hardly think that this is much fairer, but Israel has tried to play fair and the international media laughed in their face for it. As for international law, when people focus as much on the use of human shields in schools and mosques, as you quite fairly do on the deaths themselves, then Israel, I hope, will listen to you as a group.

Comment by Dr. Everett Jacobs on Jan 11 2009, 22:18

I find the question 'why do the Jews need a state' very interesting. What nation (i.e., a group of people with the same ethnic basis, culture, language, and religion) these days does not have its own state? The English have England, the French have France, and the Spanish have Spain. Surely the Jews ought to be able return to and live in a state of their own on land they settled and have lived on continusously for about 3,500 years.

Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from the end of the British Mandate over Palestine until the Six Day War. Israel offered to return Gaza to Egypt when Israel and Egypt made peace. Egypt refused the offer. Do you think the Egyptians knew something the rest of the world did not?

It is regrettable that when one takes a pro-Israel ine these days, one is often pictured as some kind of demonic, unfeeling, war-mongering dupe of America; whereas those who support the Palestinians are often picture themselves as justifiably outraged, humanitarian, kindly, objective thinkers. It is quite clear that Israel has not won the propaganda war, in spite of the justice of its case.

Everett Jacobs

Comment by JIMINYTHICKITT on Jan 14 2009, 10:52

Stephen is right to highlight the fact that there is a growing sympathy for Hamas in the media and by some politicians, and also that any military strategy must be supported with a credible political strategy.
Listening to "Any Questions" last weekend, as was highlighted both sides believe that they are 100% justified in what they are doing. And just like the comments on this blog the debate was circular.
Neither side is justified, and for any kind of breakthrough to occur a tougher stance on Hamas and Isreal needs to be taken by the International community, so that both sides see a need for a credible and workable political strategy.
It will be intresting to watch how the new Administration in the US will handle the conflict.

Comment by Molly on Jan 16 2009, 16:16

I do not defend Hamas but the state of Israel came into being against the wishes of the United Nations - then it was the Jews who were the terrorists. After the state of Israel was declared Arab business were confiscated.

In 1947 I corresponded with a Christian Arab who attended the Bishop Gobat School in Jerusalem. At the age of 17 his school was closed and he was given a choice of working in a Kibutz or moving to the West Bank. His brother had just qualified as a dentist and went to the Lebonon. My friends education came to an end and working in a kibutz he found he had been turned into a modern day slave. After that I lost touch.

Incidentally, if the Jews are descended from Abraham, according to the Bible he was born in Ur which was in Mesopotamia which is now Iraq.

Comment by Zakir Hossain Parvaj on Jan 16 2009, 17:24

I do not agree with Mr Stephen Crabb MP view on Gaza and Israil. Is there any other country in this world that they do not have a diffined boundaries, no it is only Israil, who doesn't have a diffined boundaries. They can capture a teritory when ever they want as All the powerful countries are with their support , i.e. USA, UK etc.

Q. How come Israil play football in Euro cup being an Asian country?

This is all politics..........

When Iraq intervention in Quewat, immidiately UN, US, UK interven and Labour PM Mr Tony Bliar said '' War on terror'' but it is proved now this war is the main cose of world wide recesion.

Q: Why does Israel still exist?

Q: Where is war on aggressor like Israil?

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